The next Theology on Tap will meet at the Olympic Tavern @ 7:00pm C.S.T. on the 22nd of January 2019

We decided to discuss the theology involved in the “caravan” situation developing in Central America.  Some thoughts: (hints for discussion)

  • what does the bible say about helping other people?
  • why was this caravan formed?
  • what’s the expectation if you are on this caravan?
  • why do these Central American people want to come to the U.S.?  What do they want?
  • what about U.S. security?
  • Does a passport  mean anything?
  • Are these people inspired by law and order?
  • How is the asylum process proceeding for immigrants?
  • Is it OK for the caravan people to be assaulted by their own government?
  • what is the TRUE profile of all caravan riders?
  • what about do onto others as you would have done to you,  what gives?
  • Does being a Patriot out way the bible?
  • So, are we “profiling” the people in this caravan?   Is that right?
  • (more ideas/possible reasons (thoughts might be added)
  • Note for comments:  Please stay away from/or reference any current political “talking points”.  Lets theologize in reference to the “Black Book”.  The Scriber will not post any data that does not have a good (scribers view) reference of a common sample size of the issue being discussed (no cherry picking).  Please use some numbers, remember “the scriber likes numbers”!  Can document ANY verse from the Bible.

9 thoughts on “The next Theology on Tap will meet at the Olympic Tavern @ 7:00pm C.S.T. on the 22nd of January 2019

  1. Psalm 122:7 May there be peace within your walls and security within your citadels. (Am I cherry pickin?)

    Now, who defines security?

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  2. Psalm 24:1

    The earth is the LORD’S, and all it contains, The world, and those who dwell in it.

    (creates a few issues for me….?)

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  3. Romans 12:19

    Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”

    could sound scary!

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  4. A few salient verses:
    Leviticus 19:33-34
    When immigrants live in your land with you, you must not cheat them.
    Any immigrant who lives with you must be treated as if they were one of your citizens. You must love them as yourself, because you were immigrants in the land of Egypt; I am the Lord your God.

    Deuteronomy 10:17-19
    17 because the Lord your God is the God of all gods and Lord of all lords, the great, mighty, and awesome God who doesn’t play favorites and doesn’t take bribes. 18 He enacts justice for orphans and widows, and he loves immigrants, giving them food and clothing. 19 That means you must also love immigrants because you were immigrants in Egypt.

    Deuteronomy 24:14
    14 Don’t take advantage of poor or needy workers, whether they are fellow Israelites or immigrants who live in your land or your cities.

    Deuteronomy 24:17-18
    17 Don’t obstruct the legal rights of an immigrant or orphan. Don’t take a widow’s coat as pledge for a loan. 18 Remember how you were a slave in Egypt but how the Lord your God saved you from that. That’s why I’m commanding you to do this thing.

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  5. My daily bible reading had directed me to the book of Ezra. Look at chapter 9; with foreign wives and children? How should this be interpreted?

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  6. That’s a good question, scriber. Ezra 9-10 is sometimes called one of the texts of terror in the Bible. The Bible includes a lot of bad things, like murder, rape, racism, and so on. That does not mean that we follow those texts. Ezra and the Israelite men apparently sent away their ‘foreign’ wives and children. What does ‘sent away’ mean? If they were sent out of Israel, they were likely sent to their deaths – sent into slavery, rape, abuse, or starvation in the desert – like Hagar and Ishmael, if God had not intervened to save them.

    The point is, we can find a lot of things in the Bible, but how we should apply those in our time and place is another question. Thankfully, Americans did not use Ezra to justify sending away our ancestors when they emigrated to the US 🙂 I would certainly not use Ezra to justify sending refugees to their deaths, just as I would not use Jepthah’s story in Judges 11 to justify people killing their children.

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